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Dr. Laura Cabrera
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Dr. Laura Cabrera

Systems Scientist · Translational Researcher · Chief Translational Scientist, Cabrera Research Lab

Translating scientific discovery into practical methods for human thriving.

A Cornell PhD and Cornell faculty member from 2005 to 2026, Laura is Vice President of the International Society for the Systems Sciences, a Fellow of the Academy of Systems Thinking, and the author of five books, including the award-winning Systems Thinking Made Simple.

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Dr. Derek Cabrera
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Dr. Derek Cabrera

Systems Scientist · Cognitive Scientist · Chief Scientist, Cabrera Research Lab

Discovering the universal organizing primitives that structure mind and reality.

A Cornell PhD who taught at Cornell from 2005 to 2026, Derek is the scientist behind DSRP Theory and O-Theory, president of the Academy of Systems Thinking, a former Santa Fe Institute Research Fellow, and the author of eleven books.

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